In general I’d say a large sticking point I have is I feel as if I don’t know how to have fun sometimes. Surely this stems from inner game issue. I’m very good at suffering through things(training, doing things I don’t want to do etc) as well as can talk anyone’s ear off about serious topics I’m passionate about. If I’m on a date being playful and fun doesn’t come easy to me. I can do it either with my friends or roommate but on a date it’s not there. If it’s fun for her to discuss biochemistry or whatever other serious topics I study then I’d be golden lol. But the second piece to this is I don’t feel like I actually know how to enjoy myself. To me hard training is fun, or being a noob at a new skill and working hard at it. But I mean being able to let loose, or be playful. Especially with females. Which also leads into something else for me, I don’t know how to setup a “landing page” or IG that shows an interesting day to day when mostly I’m running surveillance in a van, cooking steak or in the gym. I do know for dating apps my photos are shit, but should I get a photo shoot done or try to get pics living my life more? Any ideas on how to enjoy my life more, let loose and be more playful? All help would be appreciated!
@Paul Benjamin thank you for that Paul. There are several areas you mentioned that I need to address. And thank you to @John Rogalsky, @Austin Wright, @Adam Powell and @Jason Mac as well. This entire train of throught and things surrounding it the last few days have really opened my eyes to where I am on things. Really, thank you.
This will be a quick one, but with the timing of everything we’ve talked about it really drives the point home : MAKE IT EASY FOR GIRLS. This past weekend I was at a store I frequent picking up a few gift cards. I don’t like to approach employees at stores I go to a lot, I have a “don’t shit where you eat” type mentality. My service dog came in with me and while standing in line 2 employees behind me started trying to get my dogs attention. I turned around and with a smile said “Sorry girls he’s working, it’s not fair to tease him” and moved him out of sight. 20mins later I get a friend request from one of the employees lol. I’ll share a screenshot below, but I want you guys to see the power of having a solid social media. Do you think I would’ve gotten this response if I wasn’t easy to find? If my landing page wasn’t done correctly, would she still have reached out? Side Note : girls are always watching. I’ve been going to this place for years, don’t remember this chick, but from her message she’s been eyeing me up for awhile. This should be a reminder to open everyone, you never know who’s waiting… Stop making it harder for yourself and build your social media. I giving your guys the proof, shouldn’t need any more motivation.
@Rahul Lata it’s hard to tell I’m not the expert yet, but it seems like either you’re over thinking it and assuming you need something more special to say than you actually do, or maybe you’re boring and don’t have a lot to say. For me I tend to not shut the fuck up about the things I care about and my goals/passions etc. and I genuinely want to know about people. I can’t explain joking around other than to say I tend to say shit that makes ME laugh. But again I’m not the expert yet brother! I’m working on this shit too
@Rahul Lata I have the same issue. Only thing I can say is to try and take more actions and think after, instead of thinking first. I end up thinking my way into not taking action. Has helped me some
Paul will give you a lot of sauce here but from my perspective: Obviously you’re into her as something more than friends, but if you come at her from a place of “I don’t want to just be your friend” you’re asking her for an investment she can’t give yet. She doesn’t know where she wants this to go. She hit you up so there is some interest there, but you backed her into a corner. It’s okay to have a casual vibe, especially in this situation. If you left it at a low pressure low expectation “let’s hang out” you could have hung out with her and built rapport and tension in person. She knows you’re a guy, and she knows why you’re asking her out. She is also the one who HIT YOU UP, which she wouldn’t have done if she didn’t want to see you. IMO you don’t need her to commit to seeing you as more than a friend, you had plenty of interest to build off of.
@Brady Becker totally get that and thanks for the context. I still think you shoot yourself in the foot by doing that too quickly. If you make a move and she’s like nah, you’re my friend. Then let her know you don’t need a female friend. But I think it puts a lot of pressure on her. Personally if it’s someone you want to hook up with or spend more time with in general, I would have slow rolled it and gone on a date. The sexual tension you put forth on the date should make it clear you don’t want just friendship
Another quick one this morning but spinning off of my post yesterday, when desire isn’t enough… Last week I cold approached a girl at the grocery store; but it was a pretty warm lead. She works at the store and has given me obvious signs of wanting me to approach, but I never moved it past more than a smile out of respect for my LTR at the time. Last Friday we happened to cross paths and she waived to me with a big smile. Now that I’m single I didn’t want to let an easy opener pass by. We exchanged some banter for a few mins, she was asking date type questions (do you work for that company, how old is your dog, how is your week) and I closed with her instagram telling her we’ll grab drinks. A half hour later she followed me back and watched my stories, more signs of high interest. I had a busy weekend and held off until on opening her on IG, but hit her up on Sunday evening. She’s only watched one of my stories since, and hasn’t opened/replied to my opener. My old framework would’ve been : man what did I do wrong, I thought for sure she was into me… After chatting with Paul, I now know I can create desire in a woman, and more importantly I’m getting more familiar with what that looks like. With my new mindset, I’m starting consider more nuanced possibilities. Maybe I didn’t do anything wrong, maybe I killed it and she does have high desire, but maybe there’s something with HER. Maybe there’s a guy in the picture but she couldn’t help but flirt with me, or she doesn’t think a guy like me would want more than a hook up and she isn’t in that kind of place right now etc. We tend to focus too much on the negatives instead of the nuance. I believe this is where strong inner game comes in. What types of situations have you guys run into where the interaction goes really well but for one reason or another it stalls out? And for @Paul Benjamin what are some of the things we can look for to see if it’s a game issue, or a woman issue when dealing with these types of situations?