I was finally able to overcome my fear and I made a cold approach, just minutes ago. I'm so excited that I was able to do it and I wanted to tell some people who actually cared. Big deal, your thinking...I haven't made an approach in at least 5 years and have been really struggling with paralyzing dread, not fear or nervousness, actual dread. As if you just told me I'm being deployed to fight Russians on the Kursk battlefront. So, hurray for me!, it's vag as far as the eye can see from here on out. Be good.
@Brady Becker @John Rogalsky my brother and I are in sales. My brother asked me this. Would you just walk up to a potential customer and say, "okay ma'am are you ready to sign the contract and get services, sign here!" Of course not! You would freek them out and push them away for buying. Who the hell is this guy. I would first say Hey, it's a beautiful summer day, are you enjoying it?" Normal human interaction. Then after building some comfort get into the sale or sharing info. It's the same with girls. You aren't just walking up and closing. You are a guy who enjoys having hot girls in your life. So connecting is natural and what you want. You are not being "like her girlfriend" by simply having a conversation with her. It's easy to think in binary extremes, but it's important to break away from it. I'm still working on my limited beliefs around cold approach and just doing it. Girls crave a confident man to come up and talk to them in real life.
@John Rogalsky I like what you said about girls being receptive. They are like plants and men are like the sun. We shine the light, and they open up and receive the light and the benefits. We open the door, they walk through the door.
I came across a video from โPlaying With Fireโ that slid into my algorithm this morning and the title as catchy enough for me to take the bait : Asking Girls When They Last Got Laid. Iโve watched Alexโs material in the past, and itโs generally pretty neutral and not as sperg as most other dating channels. This is basically a man on the street type video, walking up to random chicks in downtown Miami and asking them the last time they had sex. Now I realize people wonโt always respond/report accurately, so we need to take the videos with a grain of salt, but I still couldnโt help but find the video very eye opening. Iโd ask all of you guys to give it a watch, itโs only 7mins and brings up some excellent talking points that most RP videos brainwash us into thinking is impossible. Here were my take aways : 1. Not every girl walking the streets is throwing her pussy at multiple guys. Take a listen and see how many girls arenโt very sexually active, and a few even complaining half heartedly about not getting laid enough. 2. When Alex asks where they met their last lay, pay attention to the sources. Very little social media, only 1-2 from dating apps, the majority was SOCIAL CIRCLE. Paul reminds us of this all the time : real life is undefeated in seduction. Notice there werenโt many girls (if any) who said a Chad picked them up at the grocery store and smashed? Most of these girls were getting fucked by guys organically. 3. I was really surprised how many girls had fucked guys in their orbit for YEARS. Maybe I shouldnโt be shocked at this point, but I think the 2 big take aways are playing it cool and being ok with โfriendsโ if you donโt smash, but the elephant in the room : DONT LET YOUR GIRL HAVE GUY FRIENDS AND ORBITERS. It would be great it all these guys were confident men who respected boundaries, but Iโd bet most of them were weasels. Iโd also be curious how many of these old โfriendsโ were getting action AFTER the girl broke up with a higher value guyโฆ
@John Rogalsky I'm good at meaningful conversations but need to improve my game. I have come a long long ways though. I'm a funny guy without trying, so I'm told ๐. So that strikes the emotions in a good way. Looking forward to the video. I'm about to watch
I agree. When we meet girls organically, and the vibe is correct and feels good to them and you, sex is definitely on the table. We can get some wild ideas in our heads, I did for sure, that girls are getting fucked all the time after being red pilled. Of course it coming to that understanding, but not getting into all or nothing, black and white thinking. It's understanding female nature in action. I'll watch this video again for more insight.
What I never see video content from anybody on is the initial text game. I know Corey Wayne says you have to get the ball rolling and then expect the woman to do most of the pursuing. My conundrum is when I match online get a phone number and they are reluctant to reach out. Many of them will flake anyway so I feel like you have to create a bridge until you can actually meet. The bridge meaning daily text may be a picture, something to keep them engaged. Am I wrong on this? And should I sit back and make the woman either text First occasionally or forget about the thread? Again, Iโm talking mainly about the few days or week between linking up phone numbers and actually meeting.
All good points. I don't always agree with everything Cory has to say to be honest. Some times it does take a little bit more back and forth with a chick before she is willing to meet up or get off the platform. As my brother always likes to tell me "go after the hot leads not the cold ones." If they are giving the IOis and showing interest while texting it's cool to keep the texts going and have some banter, but just don't over do it. To @Adam Powell point, have a plan. I am guilty of not always having a plan ready to rock, and then a conversation burns out. Most of my success , and most have been online dating, is when I get the girl off the platform fast and set up the date. But Don't Get Into binary extremes when it comes to texting girls or anything. Fuck the idea that she has to come after you first. You have to remember girls are getting attention all the time online. All the time. You just need to be different then the rest. You will crush it brother! It just takes time and "just doing it" to learn. And just remember to consider the context of each conversation, it's not all cookie cutter rules. It's case by case and learning to do what works. Then you can have pattern recognition, then rince and repeat.
A lot of the recent discussions around the Alpha Mindset course has gotten me curious again, and Iโm starting to go through the material a 2nd time. Mod 4 โNeural Behavioral Conditioningโ has really struck a chord with me, especially the part where Paul gives the example of military training. In firearms training, when a mistake is made they signal the issue with โMALFUNCTIONโ and then proceed to amend the mistake. Rinse and repeat, fix then repeat. Last week I broke up with my LTR, and working on my own mindset around the relationship while deciding if either/both of us are capable of a casual relationship. Since watching the module last night, now when facing a thought of โman this sucksโ, immediately catch the โmalfunctionโ and tell myself : NO, this sucks FOR HER. And then a few minutes later I might have another though โthis is really sadโ, but quickly remind myself : NO, this sucks FOR HER. While my ex is a very special girl with a lot of great qualities, Iโve learned about myself this year that no matter what Iโm always going to come out on top. No matter how big the setback, I have the grit and ability to set my ego aside in order to experience massive growth. So when I catch myself having a weak moment, I allow my mind to absorb the thought that yes it sucks if sheโs going to be out of my life, but Iโm the type of man that will always do better. This is why if we inevitably canโt work through this, it really sucks FOR HER, and Iโll continue to sand down my blind spots and become a better, more attractive and higher SMV man. What do you guys think? Do any members do something similar? Do you think I have a good grasp on the video and how to apply it?
@John Rogalsky I have never taken that courses yet. It is on my to do list. This is what I will say about it. Yes. You are correct in changing your mindset surrounding the break up. You are changing the narrative to "no, this sucks for her". What I mean by that is you are a healthy, high value man who is in the process of elevating your life, ganing new insights, and growing your skill. It was her lose my brother not yours. You are capable of better girls, and you are the kind of man who will hold fast to your boundaries no matter what, and you know that. Break ups can be a real shock to the system and can cause all kinds of pain in the body through the brain. You can go into shock some times. There is a movie clip from the movie platoon. A soldier was shot. One of the officers looked him dead in the eye, and said "take the pain, take the pain, take the pain!" It's okay to admit to yourself and other that you have real pain. But by directing it, you will heal and grow. You have massive amounts of chemicals going through your body right now. It's okay. This is a process, you will be okay. You are elevating, changing and healing your mind and how you think about the break up. I think you are thinking about using this module correct. @Paul Benjamin what do you think. It crazy how much of a attachment I had to my crazy ex. A lot of pain! Now I feel nothing. I was not using all the tools that you are now. You will be okay my brother.
This happend recently but I want to discuss it for the future. I don't wish to bury the lead, I couldn't stop the emotional investment on this one, girls a great prospect. A recent first date went well, but then in retrospect I realized I was a bit pushy to get her back to mine, then she kinda just ghosted after the date. After the date, I was still happy with the result despite this so I sent her a text some hours later that she was fun to hangout and would like to see her again, then the ghost. Now, this is the first time I've been ghosted, my plan would currently be to ask her if everythings alright maybe after the weekend or something. My main question of this discussion is, do you calibrate your takeaway with how you messed up, maybe I say that "I might've given the wrong impression, of course I want to have fun but I might've been a bit disrespectful" (I will say it in a nonqualifying way, but maybe it just is qualifying by me even reaching out). The other side of me could just next her and see my other girls, then again I don't want to leave good prospects on the table and maybe I can save this. TLDR; If you mess up a little on a date, do you try-, and how do you try to keep seeing her after she ghosts.
@Paul Benjamin just to be clear is the lower order thinking or "monkey brain" the part that drives you sexually, and makes a you want to grab her and make out on the spot, mate guard, fight, ext? Higher order is thinking through problems like we do in theses talks? Just wanting to be sure I understand correctly.