Howdy all, Wanted to share with the group in case anybody else may have to go through mediation with an ex spouse, at least where children are involved. I requested mediation - again - to try to resolve parenting time and legal decision making. Turns out both my kids are on PIP at school and one is one ADHD medication that I know she hates. Ex admitted both are having emotional problems. Well, the mediator (female) basically asked my ex if I could have "permission" to see my kids unsupervised and have some say so in their life regarding medications and medical. So you can imagine how that went. Now I will have to petition the court (lower case intended) to get some kind of custody, which they should give me. I haven't seen my kids in any natural way (without a supervisor or my ex hovering over them recording it) in 5 years. I've prepared myself that I really may not see them again before they're 18. By then they'll be so fucked up they probably won't want to see me. They're 10 and 12 and both already flirting with boys. Wear protection gentlemen. Even if you're careful you could unknowingly be sucked into this nightmare, that actually hurts kids worse than anybody else. The court found that spanking your children and calling your ex wife names via text and breaking dishes (behavior by both parties) over a 10 year marriage is significant domestic violence. If she keeps the evidence, and you delete yours then you may not see your children again. Just hearing my ex's whiny "I'm the boss" voice took me back to years worth of horrible relationship. It will never be good enough. You do not have parental rights in any meaningful way, and children do not have any rights. As a matter of fact based on what the mediator said I wonder if its getting worse for fathers (schools in Arizona may be able to prevent fathers from getting grade/school performance info). Probably since the marriage rate is down they really have to exploit those men who decide to get legally married. Divorce is big business for attorneys and governments.