This happend recently but I want to discuss it for the future. I don't wish to bury the lead, I couldn't stop the emotional investment on this one, girls a great prospect. A recent first date went well, but then in retrospect I realized I was a bit pushy to get her back to mine, then she kinda just ghosted after the date. After the date, I was still happy with the result despite this so I sent her a text some hours later that she was fun to hangout and would like to see her again, then the ghost. Now, this is the first time I've been ghosted, my plan would currently be to ask her if everythings alright maybe after the weekend or something. My main question of this discussion is, do you calibrate your takeaway with how you messed up, maybe I say that "I might've given the wrong impression, of course I want to have fun but I might've been a bit disrespectful" (I will say it in a nonqualifying way, but maybe it just is qualifying by me even reaching out). The other side of me could just next her and see my other girls, then again I don't want to leave good prospects on the table and maybe I can save this. TLDR; If you mess up a little on a date, do you try-, and how do you try to keep seeing her after she ghosts.
Long response here and I hope it helps. Your game here is communicating weakness and that she is better than you and not the other way around. First, change your mindset. What do you have to offer her? Looks/physical attraction mostly takes care of itself and if you are a 5/10 or up in her eyes, game can take care of the rest. If you can give a girl amazing orgasms, a good time, and you offer stability for long term relationship, and you have excellent game, you are a rare find. You are a catch to girls of her caliber. So you need to act like that, right? Texting her 2 hours after a date like that is a terrible game move for a guy (a great one for a girl). Do you know that? If you know better and your emotions and monkey brain convinced you that was a good idea, then that is an inner game issue. If you generally thought that was a good idea, then that is a game/skill issue. Alpha Mindset Course will take care of the inner game, Pick up skills for a busy man would take care of the outer game/skills gaps. Mastermind group or Elite Group will take care of all of it and elevate you very quickly by helping you ingrain new behaviors. From reading your message though, don’t take this offensively but though you can get dates and are doing ok, it seems like you can make some improvements in both areas (inner and outer game), and you would get very different and much better results. Based on your post, I am guessing there were mistakes on the date; mistakes that you can't see as well as the ones you can. As to the takeaway. You texted her 2 hours after the date. She didn't respond. Don't start apologizing and making excuses or asking her what's wrong or any of that shit. That is a really bad framework. You are automatically assuming that you fucked this up somehow. Maybe you did. But maybe you didn't as bad as you think. And there are other qualities about you that could be good enough to for her to want to try again. You have to act and assume that you are the prize and communicate that with your actions or she won't believe it either. Period. And women aren't charitable with their pussies... they only want to fuck a guy when they feel like they are benefiting or winning something.
lol so now I need to get guys to try out the above technique so I can gather more data. 😂 There are so many ways it could work but also ways it could fail too. You are already running uphill when she isn't responding to you.
Good day everyone. Recently I've done and Enneagram "test". The purpose was to find out what blind spots I have in my personality and also how I view the world in general. Also to get some indication on how my own behaviour influences my relationship outcomes, and attainment of personal goals , including personal development. I have received feedback from the enneagram coach as well. That in a nutshell. My girlfriend did it as well. We all know that these type of evaluations are not set in stone, and that their are fluidity between the 9 types and sub-types. In general, though, it was - for me- extremely productive. We've read each others types out load for each other, and surely their was mutual "awakenings". I wonder if other fellow tribesmen did an enneagram, and if the are willing to disclose experiences in that regard ? @Paul Benjamin What's your view of this instrument?
Ok bare with me and read this to the end because I am going to be a bit harsh here on enneagrams and these sorts of assessment tools. This can invoke a monkey brain response and a need to defend rather then objectively hear what I am saying. Just keep an open mind. So I'm not a huge fan of these types of tests because they are basically "horoscope" type thinking made to look "scientific". Enneagram's aren't scientific or backed by research. When put to the test and researched, in so many ways Enneagram fails to produce and it is rejected by credible therapists and psychology professionals. And they aren't really backed by any sort of tradition either. What do I mean by backed by tradition? So let's take something "horoscopie" (my made up word for things that are kind of flakey and subjective and anecdotal that are presented like objective truth) from religion. If several generations of people have been doing it in an established tradition and getting a particular set of effects or benefits, it stands to reason that maybe some of those effects and benefits might be true even if not tested or studied, and even if the reasons they are effective aren't the same reasons the religion believes. So where did Enneagrams come from? They were basically made up by some psychiatrists in Latin America who were influenced by Jungian psychology and work done on archetypes. The idea behind archetypes according to Jung is actually a good one conceptually. Where they get into horoscopie territory is when they try to determine brand archetypes like Jung's 12 types (the hero, the outlaw, the explorer, etc) or with Enneagrams there's 9 types (Perfectionist, helper/giver, performer, etc). These types aren't really based in anything. These types are about as accurate as someone saying, "ya know, there are 3 types of white people... Successful, lazy, and some who are kind of in between..." Like wtf are we talking about lol. I could keep writing for days picking enneagrams apart (as I could myers briggs, love languages, Jungian Archtypes, etc) so let me sum it up lol.
Hey guys, I haven't been active much here for the past few days but I have been working on a lot of stuff that'll benefit everyone. One of these is a mini-course on the neurology behind attachments, and a protocol for successfully breaking attachment and becoming BETTER from it and being a better version of yourself afterwards. It is REALLY important to understand how attachment works if you expect to have top level experiences with women in relationships and dating. So much self protection and trauma happens when we don't understand attachments, and when we don't have the skills to break them when relationships end. When you have these skills women CAN'T really hurt you or have power over you, and you are able to freely attach and have deep relationships without fear or worry. This material (what I call a mini-course) is packed with valuable information and a clear action plan, and is worth a few hundred bucks as product. However I impart these skills as a gift to you just for joining and supporting the community. And my mastermind and elite members already have access to more in depth material in the seduction course, but this short course will compliment that material well. The course is in your classroom right now (let me know if you can't access it for some reason. Enjoy!
To answer this question, I think it's valuable to watch the entire thing so you know where it's going. But most important is that you start. So urgency on starting and taking action with where you are at (phase 1 in your case). And then move through the process. Doing (and not doing) the right things in each phase is most important, regardless of how you get there.
A lot of the recent discussions around the Alpha Mindset course has gotten me curious again, and I’m starting to go through the material a 2nd time. Mod 4 “Neural Behavioral Conditioning” has really struck a chord with me, especially the part where Paul gives the example of military training. In firearms training, when a mistake is made they signal the issue with “MALFUNCTION” and then proceed to amend the mistake. Rinse and repeat, fix then repeat. Last week I broke up with my LTR, and working on my own mindset around the relationship while deciding if either/both of us are capable of a casual relationship. Since watching the module last night, now when facing a thought of “man this sucks”, immediately catch the “malfunction” and tell myself : NO, this sucks FOR HER. And then a few minutes later I might have another though “this is really sad”, but quickly remind myself : NO, this sucks FOR HER. While my ex is a very special girl with a lot of great qualities, I’ve learned about myself this year that no matter what I’m always going to come out on top. No matter how big the setback, I have the grit and ability to set my ego aside in order to experience massive growth. So when I catch myself having a weak moment, I allow my mind to absorb the thought that yes it sucks if she’s going to be out of my life, but I’m the type of man that will always do better. This is why if we inevitably can’t work through this, it really sucks FOR HER, and I’ll continue to sand down my blind spots and become a better, more attractive and higher SMV man. What do you guys think? Do any members do something similar? Do you think I have a good grasp on the video and how to apply it?
100%! You got it man! That's exactly what you are supposed to do. I use the analogy of hitting these thoughts with a hammer. Any time they come up, you reframe. Reframe. Reframe. Reframe 100's of times if you have too. Eventually the brain accepts the old patterns as untrue and unhelpful, and the reframe as true. And that supposes that the reframe fits with objective reality (which yours 100% does). Great job brother!