Sep 21 in General discussion
Quite a few guys have been booted for soliciting lol...
So a common marketing tactic nowadays in digital marketing is to drop in a DM and then solicit for a "mentorship program" when it comes to getting girls. I'm actually all for guys marketing APPROPRIATELY provided they have a good product or service. Here is the difference though.
Guys who probably DON'T have a good product, service, or coaching method will drop in your dm's, have a few general questions (that they can easily send to a large amount of people or have a bot do it) to rope you in , and then immediately go for the pitch that will sound something like "we are a lot alike and our goals are aligned. can I talk to you about a mentorship program blah blah." And they wiil do it in private communities like this one without having any conversation with the moderators or owners of the community.
Guys who could have something to offer will offer value up front for free.
I do this through youtube, posts on here, newsletters, free webinars or live calls, etc. I do this because I have a lot of value to offer and there is a lot more behind a paywall, and I want a person to know what they can expect to get out of what they are paying and to have proof of results through the value I offer up front. This is a more objective measure then testimonials in my opinion, not to say that testimonials aren't valuable. Also, guys who offer value have no problems telling you what they do to market themselves. I have no secrets when it comes to marketing because the value comes from my work, not from using marketing tactics to "trick" people into buying shit. For me it's very simple. I want myself or someone on my team to have as many real conversations with real human beings as I can, offer value up front, and then let the person decide if they want to pay for the results that they can have confidence that they will get.
And coaches/therapists/mentors who have value to offer wouldn't go into another guys business (like their private community) and try to solicit their members in their dm's without having the respect of getting permission. That person isn't treating the owner of that community as a human being, and therefore demonstrates that he is a "taker" who sees his client relationships as transactional ones (atm machines) rather then as a relationship where he helps another human beings.
I am just helping you guys here because the "mens help" space has become polluted with frauds and shit peddlers that will take your money and leave you WORSE then how you started. Don't fall for it. And I am supportive of other therapists and coaches who want to treat people like HUMANS and not atm machines, and happy to collab with people who have good things to offer. Just shoot me a dm or whatever and we can talk if you are interested in collabing in a product or service.
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Quite a few guys have been booted for soliciting lol...
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