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Day Trading for Beginners

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7 contributions to Day Trading for Beginners
Spread
Let's talk spread - a crucial aspect of day trading that can be pretty hard to grasp and even harder to implement into your trading. Personally I'm just starting feel that I "get" its effects on my strategy but I'm still ways off in regards to the hard numbers. I actually went back to 100% paper trading after a short spell of live trades where I felt that my inferior grasp of spread effects had a negative effect on profits. I realized that I needed to wrap my head around this for real before comitting real money again. Currently experimenting with how limit orders and stop limits can be used to mitigate the effects of spread, and also with how to adjust my optimal entries/exits with spread as part of the equation. Of course, the general rule of thumb is that low spreads are the way to go, but things are not always that black and white. A given asset/market could have other parameters that make you want to trade it, but the spread is high enough to make things a lot harder than you wished. Or vice versa, of course - low spread but sub-optimal parameters in other regards. Would love to hear your opinions and experiences.
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The Hardest Part is STICKING to Your Strategy
After paper trading for some time now, I can certainly see how easy it is to make some common mistakes, and these would be amplified with real money. There are many good strategies out there, and it seems that "sticking" to your strategy is probably the hardest thing to do, and what separates winners from losers. I can see this now after the drop in the market yesterday, and I've also recently came across this statement from the book The Best Loser Wins. Sticking to your strategy is the hardest part. I would imagine many other texts / guides agree with this. Here are the rules I've been working on following for the Market Symmetry Strategy I'm learning: - Stick to the strategy - Never chase price - Limit position size - Buy at support, sell at resistance - Stay uncomfortable (buying at support feels uncomfortable) Find more details about these here. These seem pretty easy to follow, but they're not. I've experienced FOMO, overtrading, and emotional reactions recently and can see how easy it is for people lose money trading. For example, I was buying COIN at support levels and on Thursday when the market had a down day. COIN dropped after earnings and kept falling through every support level. I ended up allocating more than 10% to this position, and overtraded instead of waiting and being patient. Based on various sources I feel COIN is going to do really well, and I veered off the trading rules and allocated too much in fear of not buying the bottom / reducing my average cost. These mistakes are very easy to do, and they would be amplified with real money. Now a large portion of my portfolio is stuck in a stock that is down, and I'll need to potentially wait many days or weeks for the position to turn green hopefully. Bottom line, you NEED to stick to your strategy and stay disciplined. Practice with your paper trading account because when you risk real money and run into a situation like this without practicing it or experiencing it, it very well might wipe you out.
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New comment 7d ago
1 like • 20d
Great post and very important takeaways. Most aspiring traders fail because of mindset and emotions, not because they lack any crucial TA skills or market information.
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Just listened to the podcast episode and can totally relate. Staying true to your rules and believing in your strategy is easy in theory but often very hard in practice. This of course applies to any stressful emotional state you are yet to experience - until you have actually been in the situation, your imagined response is nothing but a fantasy. If we treat trading as the potentially very stressful, risk-heavy activity it is - instead of painting a naive picture of an easy way to become rich - this dilemma becomes clearer and easier to manage. Stress responses in emergency situations varies a lot between individuals, but common responses are apathy, loss of focus, irrational behaviour and of course also panic (although that is actually less common than most people believe). Even though losing a trade is not necessarily comparable to experiencing e.g. war, accidents, fires, or natural disasters, watching your hard-earned cash evaporate before your eyes is inevitably a situation that can cause severe stress. Until you have experienced that first-hand, you really can't have any realistic expectations as to how you will handle it. That's why paper trading, and then live trading with small amounts, is so important. By doing all the common mistakes multiple times in simulated environments, and eventually by experiencing real losses that doesn't crash your personal finances in one blow, you get concrete experience of the reality of trading - which is that you will lose, and also that you alone are responsible for your loss. Until that has become an unquestionable part of your mindset, you will not be profitable. Until you have a plan that take those losses into account, and until you manage to stick to that plan, you will not be profitable. There's no coincidence that all activities involving high risks and stressful situations require very strict rules and also strict routines that make sure the rules are always followed. We should model our trading on realities, not on our personal hopes and dreams of easy money, or on our fears of losing.
Checking in
How’s everyone feeling? Learning this stuff can be challenging and frustrating so I wanted to do a check in. I’ve had some “wtf am I doing here” moments when it seems straightforward but nothing is clicking, so if that’s what you’re feeling, you’re not alone!
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New comment 21d ago
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Feeling pretty good actually. After a rough start where I struggled to get a single win (I started paper trading pretty early on as I'm very much a learning by doing kind of guy), I sort of slipped into a "zone" where things are moving in the right direction. Three weeks of consistent high win rates - one or two more and I think I'm ready to start trading with real money. Still have miles to go ofc, lots of things to improve and so on, but the basics are definitely there. For me I think the trick was just doing LOTS of paper trading and really honing my TA skills and my mindset based on a single type of strategy that suits me, my personality and my general life situation. I've been focusing on one asset, one timeframe and one simple strategy this whole time and it's actually paying off as I have not been overwhelmed by the noise which is so prevalent in the trading space - esp when you're just starting out.
A word of caution
Hi guys, I just wanted to highlight something that most new traders experience and that I think is very important to be aware of when starting out. There's just so much noise in the trading space and so many people trying to profit from the fact that beginners have few places to go for objective, neutral information on how to trade. Youtube and social media can be a great resource, but as with everything else it's crucial to be able to discern correct and relevant information as opposed to schemes, frauds and scams. Trading is actually pretty extreme in this regard as it a) attracts clueless people looking for easy money and fast solutions b) has a very high learning curve c) is not taught at any official schools or institutions d) involves a lot of money This means that the space is absolutely ripe with people trying to profit not so much from actual trading as from aspiring traders. Most, if not all, youtube gurus and "pros" get their primary income from ad revenue, courses, and pump and dump deals with various platforms. Many of them have been caught faking trades and livestreams, hiding their real data, and so on. And why wouldn't they? They are marketers, not traders. You as a beginner are their target for easy gains. They make trading look easy and repost the same technical analysis stuff over and over again, "teaching" you candlesticks and patterns and indicators that supposedly will make you a pro as well and make you $10k a day, overwhelming you with awesome "data" that is 99% clickbait. Most real pro traders don't have youtube accounts or sell courses. They make their living from trading and have no incentive to share their strategies and hacks with the general public. Do you really think they would spend their precious time making flashy videos all day long, exposing their edge and wasting time, when they could be trading? Now I'm not saying there aren't some legitimate information out there, but I'd be very careful with spending too much time, or any money at all, on "pros" or gurus. There are no easy ways to succeed in trading - if there were, everyone would be a billionaire.
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New comment Oct 18
Crypto Trading?? Fell into the Rabbit hole, should I get out?
Hi All my name is Pete and I am new to the group, Stumbled upon the podcast/wiki, thanks @Tyler Stokes for creating this space and taking part in community dedicated to helping traders in their beginning pursuits. I was drawn to trading after leaving my 9-5 to study it full time in an attempt to create a work from home lifestyle. While exploring career options stocks and trading kept popping up and decided to take a course, not really conscious of the fact it was mostly centered around a community doing crypto based trading. I am feeling uncomfortable with the VPN/Legal/sticky aspects of the crypto world, but have learned some amazing strategies over the course of the past few weeks. Do I stay the course in crypto or reevaluate another option?? Would love to know your thoughts and feedback.
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New comment 3d ago
1 like • Oct 14
Crypto trading has its benefits and personally I find DeFi a lot more interesting than TradFi in several ways. Sure, the volatility can be daunting but on the other hand day trading is all about profiting from volatile markets, right? Also, with major TradFi actors like Blackrock investing heavily in crypto, political views on crypto shifting and major crypto-geared infrastructure being built in places like Dubai (and several developing countries like El Salvador and Bhutan stepping out of the fiat system while adopting BTC), the future for crypto is promising. Not saying it's safe or even sound, but it is here to stay and personally I prefer getting on board while it's still possible.
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Gunnar Holmbäck
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Aspiring trader from Stockholm, Sweden

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